3.09.2006

The president’s line-item veto proposal is enjoying some quiet support from the Democratic ranks and from the print media. Over the last couple days The Washington Post and Senator John Kerry both came out in support of the proposal, while Senator Kerry introduced in the Senate his own version of a line-item veto power for the executive office.

Most will remember my previous post where I state that I’m not opposed to line-item veto powers but definitely opposed to anything that may allow this president more power period. However, after reading President Bush’s Legislative Line-Item Veto Act of 2006, I am starting to have a change of heart.

The language of the Act appears to be the most legislatively sane measure that I have seen yet from this administration.

The Washington Post makes note that the Act “raises none of the constitutional problems of the earlier law; nor does it raise the same concerns about concentrating power in presidential hands.” This is good since the Constitution makes it very clear that the executive cannot impose legislation or exempt Congress from its duty to not only legislate but oversight.

“Mr. Bush's idea does not so alter the checks and balances between the legislative and executive branches. Under his proposal, the president could not nix part of a spending bill; he could, however, temporarily freeze a spending item and request that Congress rescind it. Congress would be obliged to act on such requests quickly, without amendment and with no possibility of filibuster. If a majority of both houses of Congress stood by the provision, the president's action would have no consequence. If, on the other hand, the spending were a single member's pet project -- a bridge in Alaska, say -- Congress as a whole might not stand by it. The bill, in other words, gives the president not a line-item veto but a device for forcing individual votes on line items buried within larger spending packages.”

I can agree to that. But I am very skeptical of just how much this line-item veto power will combat the out-of-control, derisory Republican spending.

Some setbacks the president may encounter could actually be because of the giddy endorsements coming from the liberal wings of the Democratic Party (i.e., John Kerry) and the print media which is currently considering this a second-page story. Maybe after the ports deal officially dies, then the media may consider this issue more newsworthy. The entire Act is creditable of a healthy political discussion.

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9 comments:

Cooper said...

I personally am for anything that makes haste of some of the long tedious and overblown ,overly long legislative processes that make getting anything done almost impossible. If this does not do that than I 'm not for it; if it does I'll reconsider.

Chris said...

Lisa, I'm going to paste your comment into this post's comment section. For some reason when you stopped by the comment link was not up yet.

Lisa said:

Well...if John Kerry supports this, than it MUST be acceptable. :P Something about a broken clock being right twice a day. Anyway, I see you're not allowing comments on this new post. So I will comment on that post here. It's nice to know that you can be persuaded by a good argument, even if it isn't mine. :) You're right that the Republicans may not put the brakes on their free-spending ways...but why not attempt to stop them?

As far as the concern about Democratic endorsements of this idea for the President-- I think he's way past caring what anybody thinks of his policies, unfortunately for his own party.
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Actually, Kerry supporting it is enough to make me quiver. I think to be more precise, and I should have said this in the original post, but Kerry is actually supporting his own bill at the moment and not necessarily the president's.

This morning I finally had a chance to read the Line Item Veto Act of 2006 and I was impressed by it. I think it levels out all the checks and balances the Constitution veins itself with.

It looks like this year the Democrats might have more in common with the president than Bush's own party. I'm very interested in seeing how the Republicans are going to handle a bill that could possibly have broad Democratic support. In the past five years, the Republicans have shot down anything remotely close to being broad-base Democratic. Too bad I have less than a week left with the senate and won't get to personally see this one through.

Your argument was very good Lisa. You should have posted the Act and you would have had me all along :)

Chris said...

Alice, this particular Act could actually add to the long process that you describe :)

It sounds cumbersome indeed, but I'm leaning towards supporting it. I think it could very well benefit, or maybe at least bring some hesitation to the Republican's pork project budgets. Of course it has to get passed first. Thanks for reading and keep me posted on that new TN law.

Day by Day said...

You know... after reading the links and the way you have laid this out... it really doesn't seem that bad. I'm like Lisa, "I'm very interested in seeing how the Republicans are going to handle a bill that could possibly have broad Democratic support" should be interesting! :)

That TN law... what a bunch of crap... if a woman or man likes their toys... who really cares? Our priorities in this nation really really are way out there!

Also... I'm wanting to hear some guitar playing! ;)

Lisa said...

MJ,

They sure did collaborate well on killing the ports deal. So maybe Republicans and Democrats can agree on this too.

In your original post, I still think that it was more about what you consider to be Bush's failures (and we've already debated that) than a technical discussion of the line-item veto. That's why I didn't go into a lot of detail on that subject. Now that we are actually talking about the line-item veto, it's useful to have more specifics on what's being proposed. How does Kerry's line-item veto bill differ from what the President is proposing?

Chris said...

Sorry everyone, I'll be traveling this week for my last few days with the senate. I will try to answer comments and do a follow up post to the line-item veto proposal by the president and John Kerry on Wednesday. Thanks.

DBK said...

Good, because I want to hear more of your views on this. My personal position is that neither this nor any president should have so much power, and that the Congress needs to assert itself and role back presidential power, especially now, so that the branches of government become more collaberative in their activity than they are now. We have much too imperial a presidency as it is, with a result that abuses are so common now as to warrant nary a raised eyebrow (unless the president has a sexual encounter...that is the only breach that Congress seems to consider serious...including, if I may say so, dear Senator Obama, who has been making noises about FISA and the need for more power to fight terrorism for the president, which I find leaves me very cold towards the Senator sine this president has already seized significant power that he simply must be made to give up...either we are a country of laws or we elect a king every four years to be a law unto himself).

Chris said...

day by day, I practiced some over last weekend. I plan on using the rest of this week to drink beer and play. I doubt I'll ever get good, but it is a good way to relieve some stress. Thanks for reading.

Lisa, I think using Bush's failures as reasons as to why he should not be allowed to hold specific powers makes for good argument. If I can't use what I perceive to be his failures, then what can I use?

Kerry's bill I have not read yet. Usually with his stuff I never read and most of the time I ignore Kerry. I will try this week to read it and outline the differences. I would imagine the main differences would be in the powers vested to the Congress with the bill. But I don't know for sure. Thanks for reading and I always enjoy our debates. You are very good.

dbk, I understand. Maybe my new post will answer some questions for you. If not, leave a comment and I'll do my best to answer more. Dear Obama indeed. As of today, I'm officially not employed with the senate, so I'll be able to give better background on my dealings. Thanks for reading.

Lisa said...

MJ,

You can use whatever arguments you wish...and I must say that those arguments have made me question myself more than once about my views on everything. I think that we agree on a great many things about how Bush has failed as President, but I don't think I view him as negatively as you do. I think it's possible for Bush to be right on this issue, even if he has totally shirked his responsibility to control spending. It seems like you're beginning to come around on this.

I try to ignore Kerry too. I'm sorry for trying to make you pay attention to him. :P But you brought it up...

Anyway...good luck to your Blue Devils (as if they need it). My bracket's blown to pieces. That's what I get for listening to the experts.